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  my JW brother's reply on facebook? what should I say next

  by Found Sheep in

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  this was my poststrong conviction does not make your belief true, people die for lies every daythis is his-you're spot on.

  truth really matters:.

  john 17:17 - god's word is truth.

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  I'm in full agreement with FinallyFree: the Bible is not true simply because it says "God's word is truth."

  Sociopaths and psychopaths always say they're innocent. Why would they lie about something so serious?

  IF the Bible was true, both SCIENCE and HISTORY would provide corroborating evidence. The fact is that they do not.

  What is the Bible? Is is a great example of the world's oldest public-relations campaign, full of people and places that never existed, loaded with so-called prophecy which was written AFTER THE FACT, not before.

  Aesop was more honest - he called his collected works FABLES.

  As for Found Sheep's brother - drop the subject. Spend your time teaching a pig to do the polka, you'll attain success sooner!
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  Prince Dancing with Apostates

  by Refriedtruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  prince dances with the (apostate) stars?o-kay take it from here posters am i reading too much into this or what?

  ?prince calls celebs on stage to party at nyc show.

  access atlanta.

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  Sherri Sheppard may have been raised as a JW; maybe she was even disfellowshipped - I don't know about that - but to call her an "APOSTATE" is just plain insulting.

  Sherri Sheppard isn't smart enough to be an apostate! She's a moron!
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  Is Prince fading

  by ldrnomo in

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  2. entertainment

  looks like he's lightening up and starting to sing some of his old song that were erotic.. .

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101219/ap_en_tv/us_people_prince.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHYeOA4-rI

  a more complete rendering of the "lyrics":

  I was only 16 but I guess that's no excuse
  My sister was 32, lovely, and loose
  She don't wear no underwear
  She says it only gets in her hair
  And it's got a funny way of stoppin' the juice
  My sister never made love to anyone else but me
  She's the reason for my, uh, sexuality
  She showed me where it's supposed to go
  A blow job doesn't mean blow
  Incest is everything it's said to be
  Oh, sister
  Don't put me on the street again
  Oh, sister
  I just want to be your friend
  I was only 16 and only half a man
  My sister didn't give a goddamn
  She only wanted to turn me out
  She [took a whip to] me until I shout
  "Oh, [motherfuckersjustamotherfucker]
  Can't you understand?"
  Oh, sister
  Don't put me on the street again
  Oh, sister
  I just want to be your friend
  I know what you want me to do
  Put me on the street
  And make me blue
  Oh, sister, oohoohoooow
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  I am new,,just need to ask? Overcharging at Special One Day Assembly

  by dreamgolfer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  re; overcharging at special assembly daysmessage hey, .

  having a wee bit of trouble but may have stumbled across a couple of things.

  can you confirm or look into this- .

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  Let's think about this very carefully:

  1. The work performed at the Assembly Halls is of the highest caliber and the workers are paid at the top end of the union scale. No, No No... that's not right, ALL the work performed at the Assembly Halls is performed by non-compensated (unpaid) volunteers.

  This adds precisely $0 to operating expenses.

  2. The Assembly Hall properties are heavily taxed by the municipalities in which they are located. No, No, No... that's not right, the properties pay NO TAXES to any municipality because they are an exempt religious organization.

  This adds another $0 to the operating expenses.

  3. The magnificent all-you-can-eat buffet tables are expensive. No, No, No... there is no food service of any kind offered. There USED TO BE, but that is OLD WTB&TS History now. JWs are encouraged to bring petits-fours and finger sandwiches from home along with their bottles of chilled refreshments. KFC MacDonald's and Subways sandwiches are discouraged.

  4. The assemblies generate lots of audio crap, which dissipates into the atmosphere. It also generates tons of literal feces, 'cause all God's chillun gotta poop. Toilet paper adds to the operating overhead. Be a prince and bring your own roll to the assembly, whydontcha? That's what the ancient worthies would want you to do.

  5. The ASSemblies generate lots of litter-chure, and it all has to go into a big black plastic bag so that a sea turtle can swallow it and die of terminal bowel obstruction. No, the turtles will NOT be resurrected. Jehovah worries about sparrows, but the turtles are on their own. They're reptiles! oops, so are birds...

  6. WTB&TS mucky-mucks have to travel in the utmost comfort to and from the ASSemblies, lest they wake from the dream that they are already in Paradise.

  NOW we're getting somewhere!

  7. Brothers, thse presses don't run on Jehovah's Magic Spirit. Someone has to pay for the paper, ink, 'lectric and slave quarters and slave food, and by "someone" we mean YOU.

  Your Brothers, equal yet SUPERIOR to you in every way,

  The WTB&TS, Brooklyn
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  Old members....

  by Botzwana in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was looking through this site and noticed many that haven't responded to new posts in 6 to 9 years.

  do these people go back to the org or do they just go live their lives?

  newworldslacker is one i saw that is gone.

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  Grace,

  I think all right-thinking members of this forum want you to stay here with us.

  Only wrong-thinkers would dare suggest otherwise, and we won't take any truck from that lot!
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  by HintOfLime in

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  wattsacominago?
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  Is the WTBTS having cash flow problems?

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was at a 2 day circuit assembly this weekend and i was surprised at how many times mention was made directly or indirectly reminding those in attendance (1,600) of the need to give $$$.

  even in the soliloquies or skits they seemed to work in the need to give $$$.. it made me wonder if the society is having 'cash flow' problems and hence is desparate for cash.

  over the years that i've attended conventions and assemblies the need to give $$$ has been subtle (imo), til now.

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  Years and years ago the WTB&TS made a decision that their target audience would be the dumbed-down ignorant masses of the world, because these are the people most likely to respond to a simplistic message of almost-immediate (just add Armageddon!) salvation.

  They are reaping the fruits of their hardscrabble intellectually salted fields today. Although there are some wealthy JWs, they are a resented minority. Compare to the Mormons, who encourage and provide facilities for advanced education. Faux pas, WATCHTOWER!

  My personal hope is that the WATCHTOWER does not have enough to make it through the long cold winter soon to come and it it ends its days eating its last devoted district servant and dying, choking, with a bone caught in their throat.

  What's for dinner? MEATLOAF!
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  Latest Special Talk in Australia

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no, i don't mean the visit by oprah.. there was a special talk on sunday relayed to all the aussie congs from sydney.

  apparently the speaker had an american accent, but was stationed in a latin american country.

  he was really pushing field service and pulled out the old one that: if you do not witness you are not one of jehovah's witnesses.

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  You are hereby sentenced to hang by the neck until you cheer up.
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  Blasphemy???!!!

  by behemot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pakistani doctor held under blasphemy law .

  associated press.

  pakistani authorities have arrested a doctor on suspicion of violating the country's contentious blasphemy laws after he threw away the business card of a man who shared the name of the prophet.. .

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  Islam bids you welcome to the 14 th century!
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  return visit with my jw barber today

  by JunkYardDog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i sit down i see wt books on the counter.

  after the hair cut the barber agreed it look up some of the stuff i told him.

  i agreed , it don't make it true , but most everything on those sites is on the wts cd.

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  Well done as always, JYD!

  THINK ABOUT THIS: The JW Barber would have been on cloud nine if he was asked to tell about his "incidental witnessing" at his Circuit or District Assembly. It is COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE for JYD to come to HIS peer group - we apostates here at JWN - to relate his "field service experiences."

  Personally, I think that TAI is afraid of JYD; he knows that in a fair debate JYD would clean his clock!

  I also agree with Timothy Riches. There's a nice saying; "It's never too late to live happily ever after." JYD is offering that poor doomed JW an opportunity to reclaim the REST OF HIS LIFE. JYD is doing a "life-saving" work!

  As The WATCHTOWER told us, we have a MORAL OBLIGATION to alert the doomed to their erroneous path:

  "When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?" -- THE WATCHTOWER January 15, 1974

  From his comments it is clear that ThinkAboutIt resents JYD's message of salvation.